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(Date Posted: 01/05/2007 12:03 PM)

It turns out Airasia had plans for a long-haul budget carrier, but not an alliance, see:CNN report"Online sale of tickets will begin next month for initial service to Tianjin and Hangzhou in China, and to either Manchester or London in the United Kingdom."Malaysia's daily express report"AirAsia X would stick to the business model of tight cost control and offer low fares with one way flight to United Kingdom starting from RM9.99 [=GBP1.40]. "Low fares attract volume," he said, adding that the average ticket price would be at least 50 percent cheaper than the current air ticket prices." ""Chan said that AirAsia X has been given the right to fly to destinations that Malaysia Airlines (MAS) was not flying into." (Which appears to mean airports as opposed to cities (MAS flies KLIA-LHR, but London is a potential route mentioned above. Fernandez mentioned London Stansted as a potential terminal.)Edit Reason: Tidying up linksModerator: Alan L

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(Date Posted: 01/05/2007 12:59 PM)




It turns out Airasia had plans for a long-haul budget carrier, but not an alliance




It seems they're still after an alliance. See second last para of
Malaysian Star report

" On negotiations with Virgin group's Sir Richard Branson and EasyGroup's Sir Stelios Haji-loannou, Fernandes said it was still on-going, but declined to elaborate. "

Perhaps this would just be to organise short-haul feeder flights for their long haul service (like the mooted Easyjet-Oasis link). But Virgin Express's hub is Brussels - apparently unsuitable for this role unless AirAsia X has plans for a Brussels service...

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(Date Posted: 01/06/2007 8:04 PM)


But Virgin Express's hub is Brussels

True, but Virgin Trains  operates a rail network connecting London, the Midlands, the north of England and Scotland to Milton Keynes and from there Virgin ExpressCoach  operates a 55 minute connection direct to Luton Airport.

It appears as though  Virgin Trains  is  trying hard  to be the transport provider of choice for anyone  wanting to travel between  any destination in the UK (outside the south or southwest)  and Luton Airport.

For those heading into London from Luton Airport there are more public transport alternatives - such as Stelios Haji-Ioannou's easyBus  - which is certainly cheaper than travelling into London on Virgin transport services.

But for those heading for other parts of the UK, the only other major  transport provider to Luton  is NX Airport  which, for departure points closer to Luton Airport  - such as Coventry or Birmingham - is cheaper and sometimes even  quicker than Virgin. For departure points which are more distant from Luton Airport, Virgin Trains  turns out to be both cheaper and quicker than NX Airport.

It's fairly clear what the benefits might be for the Virgin group if it  provided a seamless onward transport service  for passengers on Air Asia X flights taking off and landing at both London Luton and Manchester airports.

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(Date Posted: 01/06/2007 10:12 PM)



It's fairly clear what the benefits might be for the Virgin group if it provided a seamless onward transport service for passengers on Air Asia X flights taking off and landing at both London Luton and Manchester airports.



Erm - more passengers, positive brand association if Airasia X is successful. Anything else?

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(Date Posted: 01/07/2007 1:03 PM)


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(Date Posted: 01/08/2007 3:13 PM)


Okay, let's get back to Air Asia X itself.

This  report on Tuesday, January 9th by Leithen Francis in flightglobal.com:

AirAsia owners set sights on low-cost long-haul

quotes an interview with FAX CEO  Raja Mohd Azmi Raja Razali, in which he says that Air Asia X will have  two classes:  "economy" with a seat pitch greater than AirAsia's, and "super economy" which will have "almost" flat-bed seats.

The same article also states that  the new airline  will use Air Asia's online booking engine as one of its sales channels - though it's not clear whether it means the same technology on  a different  website or booking through the same website.

Tony Fernandes told US publication Aviation Week & Space Technology that Air Asia X was in final negotiations for 20 aircraft  for its long-haul flights - either  Boeing 777-300ERs or Airbus 330-300s.

Do we yet have any confirmation of routes, or fares or launch dates on when booking will become available?

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(Date Posted: 01/16/2007 7:28 PM)


Rumours abound that as well as flying to Manchester and / or London Luton, Air Asia X will also fly to Tianjin and Hangzhou in China.

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(Date Posted: 01/16/2007 9:11 PM)


Tianjin and Hangzhou were mentioned in the CNN report a few weeks back:
"Online sale of tickets will begin next month for initial service to Tianjin and Hangzhou in China, and to either Manchester or London in the United Kingdom."

See the 1st post in this thread...

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(Date Posted: 01/17/2007 12:54 PM)


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(Date Posted: 01/18/2007 9:17 PM)


Pity the conference isn't a few months later - ticket'd be cheaper ;-)

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(Date Posted: 03/08/2007 3:18 PM)


FAX postpones long-haul services by as long as a year

Fly Asian Xpress (FAX) has postponed its long-haul budget services by as long as a year as it cannot get the aircraft it needs to start operations in July, said FAX shareholder Datuk Tony Fernandes.

"We can't find the planes. AirAsia X will definitely start at the latest in August 2008. If they can find planes before then, they will start, otherwise they won't,' Fernandes, who owns 10% of FAX, told Bloomberg in Singapore on March 8.

He said FAX planned to order 15 twin-aisle aircraft from Airbus SAS or Boeing Co, valued at as much as US$2.9 billion (RM10.17 billion) at list prices. He said AirAsia X, the new airline, would pick Boeing's 777-200 or the A330-300 aircraft by Airbus.

Flights were initially scheduled to start in July after FAX in January won government approval to begin services. AirAsia X had planned to lease two or three planes this year and purchase more for delivery in 2008.

Meanwhile, Fernandes, who is also AirAsia Bhd's chief executive officer, said the budget carrier would need to buy more planes to meet rising travel demand.

It already has total firm orders for 150 aircraft. AirAsia expects a 50% rise in passenger traffic this year, driven by demand in Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesia.

The carrier expected to hedge 100% of its fuel needs this year and had hedged 80% of its requirement this quarter, Fernandes said.

http://www.theedgedaily.com/cms/content.jsp?id=com.tms.cms.article.Article_31d95737-cb73c03a-b9b8d000-555f3b58

That's a shame, this was one of the more interesting LCC to be starting up this year.

 

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(Date Posted: 03/11/2007 1:40 AM)


I did think back at the beginning of January that a July launch was a bit optimistic.

This delay will  give Oasis  and Viva Macau  more time to establish themselves as the Asian long haul low  fare airlines, before Air Asia X gets started.

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(Date Posted: 03/11/2007 11:58 AM)


Viva macau??? I see in Wikipedia that 'It concentrates its business on long haul service from Macau to North America, The Middle East, Europe and Australia, as well as some regional destinations.'

But at the moment it's longest haul route is Macau Male. Do you think it'll have intercontinental routes up & running before Airasia?

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(Date Posted: 03/11/2007 1:31 PM)


Do you think it'll have intercontinental routes up & running before Airasia?

Before Air Asia X?

Yes, without doubt. Viva Macau  is still at an early stage of establishing itself as an intercontinental long-haul low fare airline.

At the Asia Pacific LCC Symposium In Singapore in 2006, Viva Macau CEO Andrew Pyne stated that  once it starts growing,  Viva Macau  will definitely fly to Honolulu  and also to other destinations in North Asia (Korea and Japan), Australia, the Gulf, the Indian Subcontinent and Western Europe.

Additionally  Viva Macau will look seriously at flying to a number of Russian destinations - not only Vladivostok and Khabarovsk in the Russian Far East, but also Moscow and St. Petersburg.

Two months ago at the   IVth Asia Pacific LCC Congress (again in Singapore) Pyne repeated that, while nothing has yet been confirmed, Viva Macau  is still looking at establishing routes to western Russia and the Persian Gulf.

When Air Asia X said at the start of January it was planning a July launch, it looked like Tony Fernandes' new airline was going to leapfrog Pyne's as the second low cost  carrier to operate  transcontinental routes from Asia. But that's not going to happen now, if Air Asia  X  has put everything back  for one year. 

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At the Asia Pacific LCC Symposium In Singapore in 2006, Viva Macau CEO Andrew Pyne stated that once it starts growing, Viva Macau will definitely fly to Honolulu and also to other destinations in North Asia (Korea and Japan), Australia, the Gulf, the Indian Subcontinent and Western Europe.



My cursory google news search didn't throw up much, so they don't seem to have put out many press releases. If that's the case, it sounds like things are in the very early stages & they haven't sorted out route approvals, new planes etc.

Did he mention a timescale for this?

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(Date Posted: 03/11/2007 5:17 PM)


Did he mention a timescale for this?

No, no timescale for now, but I'll post some news as soon as I hear anything.

Since it looks like there won't be anything more to discuss regarding Air Asia X for now, I'm locking this thread.

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RE:Airasia X
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I have also heard about this topic...but thanks for sharing...


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